This scene is so wonderful, really. It is at the end of the movie, Finding Nemo.
It’s at the end of every tributary of our lives. At the end of each quest. At the end of the massive plan that’s motivated us through all the adversity and pain along the way.
There is a plan, that comes for some of us in clear delineation! But there is also a way which seems right to a man.
There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.
Proverbs 14:12
Another verse or two that I need to mention right away, Matthew 6:33-34 and a verse or two earlier, 19-21
21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also… 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.
While I’m at it… another one that’s caught my attention over the years is one which JB Phillips renders,
Yet we urge you to have more and more of this love, and to make it your ambition to have no ambition!
I think it’s a common delusion in our day, the idea that we are to pick a dream, and confess it outloud… I don’t know the exact rhetoric.
But another colour needs to be added to this painting,
10 So now, go. I am sending you to Pharaoh to bring my people the Israelites out of Egypt.”
Traffic flow…
Here’s what I don’t get. Why I have to have no ambition, and end up with nothing that I’m allowed to do. Others seem clearly to have ambition and all the opportunities are given to them. Why am I the only one who’s forbidden to have ambition? Why are they with all their ambition and pushing other people out of the way able to continue on doing what they do as if the rule doesn’t apply to them?
Bruce> Interesting. As you know, I struggle with what roll I can play in the work of church. I look and wait for opportunities to use my giftings, but I am usually pushed out of the way by people with more ambition. For me it seems that trying to have no ambition results in having no opportunities as well. Maybe I should just be content with stacking chairs.
So! I’ve got your attention! This stream of ideas is pouring out of me, It began years ago with Matthew 6:33-34, A young naive Christian named me, Look now! Did Jesus have ambition?
Bruce> Listening….
Look at Exodus 3:10 10 So now, go. I am sending you to Pharaoh to bring my people the Israelites out of Egypt.”
Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. 3 So Moses thought, “I will go over and see this strange sight—why the bush does not burn up.”
4 When the Lord saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, “Moses! Moses!”
And Moses said, “Here I am.”
5 “Do not come any closer,” God said. “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.” 6 Then he said, “I am the God of your father,[a] the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.” At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God.
7 The Lord said, “I have indeed seen the misery of my people in Egypt. I have heard them crying out because of their slave drivers, and I am concerned about their suffering. 8 So I have come down to rescue them from the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land into a good and spacious land, a land flowing with milk and honey—the home of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. 9 And now the cry of the Israelites has reached me, and I have seen the way the Egyptians are oppressing them. 10 So now, go. I am sending you to Pharaoh to bring my people the Israelites out of Egypt.”
Exodus 3:1-10
Also Isaiah… the “I saw the Lord…” in the year Ussiah died
8 Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?”
And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
9 He said, “Go and tell this people:
Laurence
Called vs ???
Bruce
having ambition?
Laurence
For now let’s call it that, ambition.
Bruce
Here’s what I don’t get. Why I have to have no ambition, and end up with nothing that I’m allowed to do. Others seem clearly to have ambition and all the opportunities are given to them. Why am I the only one who’s forbidden to have ambition? Why are they with all their ambition and pushing other people out of the way able to continue on doing what they do as if the rule doesn’t apply to them?
Laurence
I am so thrilled with the fact that I know you! Bonhoeffer said, in the cost of discipleship, the tree is unaware of its fruit …of all of those you just lumped in, it was YOU, Bruce, that got me back to church… You being a “less than wonderful person” to me way back when, and then when we reconnected, you said exactly what needed to be said to me! Healing me! You owned your behaviour and asked for forgiveness. You went from being a traumatic event in my life, to a brother in Christ.
Bruce
Well.. God had taken me aside and had a few words with me, interestingly it wasn’t specifically about you or Andrew. I had gone through some reform in a general sense.
Laurence Wonderful clarity! Even now, are not saying “yes, yes…” Humility! I have another jerk in my life that argues out loud with me,
Laurence >
I say Jerk in the most loving way 
Bruce
Why does he argue?
Laurence > He’s 30 
I turned around to see him there didn’t recognize him at all and I said that yes I am Laurence Brand, and he said I knew you from Richmond Alliance, and so I gave him a big hug and among other things, he didn’t shrink away, but leaned into my hug And then he said I used to ride your bus also so I hugged him again and he hugged me again there we were in the middle of church, hugging a lot, Turns out, but I did indeed remember him, my phone remembered him even better than I did, because that day I gave him both of my cards and told him to choose one of them Do you know about my cards?
Bruce
No. Is it like a red pill.?
Laurence >
[yes] He called them the red pill and the blue pill!
Bruce
So what’s the red pill and what’s the blue pill?
Laurence > The only thing that I miss about being a bus driver for Coast Mountain Bus Company, Is the conversations that I have with complete strangers, that for me are clearly once in which the Holy. Spirit has been involved not at all different from the woman at the well in John chapter 4
Bruce
I’m listening
Laurence >
And rightly a wrongly, I don’t know whether to judge myself or not, I decided that I needed to have a business card so that we could keep up the conversation at a later date and stay in touch… So I created the card on the left there, and when I’m out in the community in a coffee shop or anywhere else for that matter and I happen upon someone where there is an instant rapport and a heart-to-heart meaningful conversation, and before I leave, I say here’s my card and the whole tone of the interaction changes and suddenly I’m an Amway salesman and I never hear from them again! So I needed to tweak my idea, and I came up with the card on the right.
Bruce
Is there something more than sunshine on it?
Laurence >
Thanks for the questions. You’re an awesome man. This is definitely an interactive topic and although you were merely human, you were also sent by the Holy Spirit, which is particularly funny since you think you’re a useless loser who’s been forgotten about by time in space. That picture was drawn by two little girls on my school bus, Summer and Aila, the sunshine in the sky, there is where I stole the sun for my sky. There is the colour blue and whenever I give this card to people, the one on the right, of course, I always see them. Look at the card, turn it over and then turn it back over again with the look of confusion on their face they look up at me. I’ve then said to them you have just now been the sunshine in my sky, and I want you to remember this moment. Sometimes I add that God has spoken or is speaking to me and perhaps to them also and that I want them to keep this card out of it. They can keep that conversation going with him.
Bruce
It’s like your own little Ray Comfort thing
Laurence >
So you’ll have to refresh my facts, but I think the red pill is the one our hero takes ?
Laurence >
Googling “Ray comfort…
Laurence >
I have issues with current and past evangelistic methods
Bruce
That summary really doesn’t do justice to what he does. You have to watch one of his videos. He’s a force of nature.
Laurence >
I will get back to that thank you!
Bruce
Is organization is living waters
Laurence >
So Barry took both cards because he’s a jerk like that, and he actually sent me a text and when I went to see if his phone number in my phone, I noticed that I already had his number in my phone as “Henry’s son…”
Laurence >
I like him already
Laurence >
So Barry is an interesting convert to faith
Laurence >
He grew up in church, and was one of those guys that dabbled in satanic symbols etc … I’ll introduce you , he can tell you, But he got sacred back to God, when he realized it was not UNreal stuff… and his thought pattern was something like OK if Satan’s real then God’s real and I want to be on the right side
Bruce > Here’s a Ray Comfort Video>
Jewish Professor Cries Out to Jesus for Salvation
Laurence >
I would invite you to write out the gospel of John, but failing you taking that wonderful step of faith, at least reading through it, and proving me wrong verse by verse, if you can in the area that I believe that Jesus went from A to B. and everything that happened in his life and Ministry is what “happened along the way” but in John Jesus clarifies and says my food is to do the will of him who sent me. I’m not one of those who believes that Jesus knew specifically that the woman would be at the well and that he had some sort of divine appointment with her, it’s arguable, but they’re in John four it says that He had to go through Samaria, He was exhausted and tired, hungry, and was resting at the well. The disciples had gone into town to get him something to eat. So there he was alone and Long came Jones slow walking Jones, oh wait that’s a song, along came the woman
Bruce
Yes… Go on..
Laurence > Jesus response in the moment was the conversation in interaction. I’m not really 100% on this next part, but he demonstrated for us at the very least what it is to hear the Holy Spirit in his heart and follow the Holy Spirit’s lead, however, when Peter says elsewhere in the gospels, that Jesus was the Christ, the Messiah Jesus says a human beings did not reveal this to you, but the father, so perhaps it was the father who is telling Jesus what to say, and Jesus being conversant with the father, knew what to say… While that might rattle you… And I’d rather just let it rattle you and react to it… But I’m sure it’s rattling you so I’ll just go on… Elsewhere in the gospel of John (that you should write out, in a little journal) Jesus says everything that he said or did is what the father told him to say and do, so there you go maybe I answered my own question! For me, it’s been the Holy Spirit. Take a look at John 14:26. Getting back to the going from a to B aspect of Jesus life the A starts in chapter 2 when his mother goads him into that first miracle. I’m in tears right now about it, as usually happens when I think of this, Jesus? Many places in the Bible it talks about us needed to lay our lives down! Look at revelation 12:11 they love not their lives so much is to shrink from death. Jesus knew exactly what he was doing, obviously (you’re rolling your eyes, aren’t you?) by the looks of things you’ve gone to fry your eggs and flip your hashbrowns around, The B was the cross. Jesus knew that that’s where he was destined to end up, it was why he came. I know you wouldn’t even try to argue against that because that very precious fact is what all of us know that while we were at sinners Christ came to live and die for us.
Bruce
So you’re saying that from point A to point B, literally anything else could have happened in Jesus would have turned it into opportunities of equal import to what we see recorded in the Gospels. The key was that he was ready to respond to the holy Spirit at every moment.
Laurence >
I think that the church itself has been invaded by and taken over by folks who think they know how to build the church when it’s Jesus Christ that builds the church. I don’t know how to differentiate it at this point between God, the father and the Holy Spirit. Yes! But switch Holy Spirit out with The Farther… I just talked myself out of that one If you look at the gospel of John, it is not a play-by-play of Jesus Life, correct?
Bruce
Okay, yes. But if the church is like a football team, it seems like the whole team is full of people who are the “ones who think they know how to build the church”. And I don’t know about anybody else who sincerely wants to serve but can never find opportunities, but I feel my gifts are being wasted while I wait for people to make room for me to do my part, I fear they never will, because that might mean diminishing their own role. It’s not a play-by-play of Jesus’s life? I’m not sure what you mean.
Laurence >
John 21:25 Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written. In reply to your football team gone astray, I would say, “God is your only obstacle Bruce” Romans 1:21
Bruce
I know that God is my main obstacle. What I don’t understand is what he’s thinking.
Laurence > Hebrews 12:7 How old are your little time wasters? Or do you call them “waste of time 1” and “waste of time 2” ? <Bruce has two children>
The pastor for one. He’s in his fifties. The worship leaders that we’ve had. They use that position as a stage (quite literally) to present their own giftings to the world. It’s not wrong that they’re using their gifts, but why do they make no room for anyone else to. And why is it that while they do this, God seems to be perfectly fine with it? That’s why it’s significant to me to look and see even your Ray comfort that you have pointed out, in Exodus three God gets Moses interest, he knew what to do to get Moses interested, it says there if you go and read it, Moses mosey on over to see what the burning bush was all about. He only got so far before God confronted him with the fact that he was unworthy to even stand in God’s presence, in fact, takeoff your shoes
Bruce
Well I go to Calvary chapel, which has its own storied history. It’s a very nice story, that began with people listening to God’s urging to do things differently. Began by allowing hippies to attend church with no shoes on. But in the time since, Calvary chapel seems to have settled into a system of doing things. From what I have seen, anytime a church gets into using systems, it usually results in dead wood.
Laurence >
Got declared that he, and make sure that we realize when I say this that God said, I am going to get my children out of Egypt…. So back to the story of church hopping… covid happened, and it interrupted my church attendance. When Cheryl and I were called back to church, we were sitting at our dining room table on a Sunday morning, and I was playing some old vineyard songs that we used to listen to when we first got together, and it brought us both to tears – tears are a sign and symptom of being affected by the Holy Spirit for both her and I- and we both missed corporate worship
Bruce
Vineyard, by the way, was an offshoot of Calvary chapel.
Laurence >
And as I look back on it, it was the presence of God in corporate worship, and so being a man who is used to speaking to a woman like my wife, well I know how to speak to my own wife, I said “if we go back to church where would that be?” I’m just writing out Numbers 22 And I’m eager to get to the part where Balak gave up trying to curse Israel And he moved on to some sort of seduction, do you know about this? It seems to be the same old same old game, they forget their first love? It’s right there in revelation, right? You are a very loyal person, you and I have that in common! If you were to stand up in church one day and prophecy that they’re all full of crap and going to hell and that they’re an ineffective weak church, i’m thinking that you would be ushered out more likely than be asked to come to the front to give an altar call Did you know that in September last year I started writing out the entire Bible? Anyways, I couldn’t figure out if I was called to confront Danny Stebeck and his Board of Directors with the fact that somebody there had them by the??? For he was clearly not the one in charge, something else where somebody else was. The deadness in that church was resulting from a rejection of the Holy Spirit, a fear of the Holy Spirit, a fear of the moving of the Holy Spirit. It’s wonderful that you know Andrew so intimately. Andrew right now has to decide if he will respond to what the book of Hebrews calls TODAY
Bruce
That’s the problem with systems Church. If you fiddle with the system, you run the risk of it breaking down. Allowing the holy Spirit to do what he wants in your midst results in unpredictability. Unpredictability is the enemy of systems.
Laurence >
He is experiencing his own accidental crisis, existential crisis?
Bruce
Really? He hasn’t mentioned anything to me.
Laurence >
It’s important that you realize that I’m gonna share something with you about Andrew, which won’t surprise you, but you must absolutely spend time with him and come to realize it on your own, if you haven’t already! Andrew is the one who inspired “now what”
Laurence >
Do you remember how he came to us from Korea? April 2023, I know you know every second minute our day the past from when he got there to when he got to where he is now
Bruce
I don’t actually think that anyone will go to hell for running a church into the ground by making it a slave to a system. But they are thwarting what the church could do if they unleashed it. Will there be a consequence for that? I don’t know. I think we all do things that there will be consequences for.
Laurence >
So I won’t rehearse it for you
Bruce
There have been huge gaps in my relationship with Andrew over the past year because of my job. I put in inordinate amounts of time preparing for my classes, so I very little time to spend with anyone. Even my family.
Laurence> I can hear your own battle here, Bruce. And the thing that I keep hearing is Jesus words, what is that to thee follow thou me
Each of us from our own perspective likes to think that everyone else will face consequences for what they do or don’t do. We all like to think that we are the only ones who really understand the mind of God.
You replied to Bruce ·
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The same is true for me. Also, my own personal needs and pursuits have put the ball in Andrew‘s court. It’s up to him to take the ball and run with it. I happen to be Andrew’s banker and the man that maintains his email account and let me just say that he’s been thwarted from dabbling in the same old garbage* that he’s always dabbled in
Laurence >
No one should have such a close perspective on another person’s life like I have, but I love my brother and it’s humbling to me because at every point that I would judge my brother Andrew I apply Matthew 7:1-6
Laurence >
Andrew was flying high! I have no animosity towards Andrew! But he is one of many who looked at me in my life and mocked me for my, “seek first the kingdom of God…” Ideology
Bruce
I’m going to hold you accountable not to use profanity. You yourself have said that you were trying not to. Here is your moment of accountability.
Laurence >
did you know I once started a conversation with Danny Stebeck about ambition and he said OK Laurence you can hold the ladder for the rest of us
Have I done do this conversation?
Bruce
Yep. That sounds like Danny Stebeck.
Bruce
… Dabbling in the same old b. S.
Laurence >
that men’s group I told you about started for me when Ashton turned to me and said I wanna be a part of that group one day in church when we had the BE THE MAN CHALLENGE 2025
Laurence >
Thank s
Laurence >
Ashton had been battling with pornography and masturbation, and because I’m a man and his dad, I knew about the fact that it existed I didn’t ever find out exactly what he considers to be pornography, and part of my refusing to be codependent extended to my son… So when he came to his mother and I and said I don’t wanna be doing this anymore… How did he come to that point? Well that part of my story where I said I asked Cheryl if we went back to church which church would we go to, I believe believed that we should go back to Ladner Pentecostal Church as some sort of prophet and And lead them all out of Egypt
Laurence >
So I choose to ask God, by asking my wife, I think, who very uncharacteristically gave me a step-by-step, systematic answer as to why we would not be going to what is now called lighthouse Church, but instead two, what was at that time Life Church?
Bruce replied to you
Yes that’s interesting about Andrew. Icarus with his melted wings
So the fact that we’re going to River Valley Vancouver is partially because of the answer that Cheryl can
Bruce
It’s very sweet that Ashton felt comfortable coming to Cheryl with that admission and cry for help.
Laurence >
In true form, that is just like we read in the pages of the Bible, they were concurrent things that happened that led to me and Family going to River Valley Church
You replied to Bruce
Think about this, Bruce!!! The Bible says to be always ready to give a reason for the Hope that you have first Peter chapter 3
Laurence >
They overcame him by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony they love not their lives so much is to shrink from death
They love not their lives so much as to shrink from being insignificant
Laurence >
You know, Bruce you have a prophetic ministry, and by that I mean, you are a truth teller! If I was to change anything about you, it would be to stop in your tracks when you realize something about someone, and to pray and ask God for the opportunity, and like Isaiah say even so send down me, to feel unworthy to be the one sent, and I’m speaking to myself now also Bruce, I’ve just made this mistake so many times myself! That’s why I say that I have been delving into a new practice in my life. I have not been minding others spirituality minding other people’s business for them.
Laurence >
So I’m in a work in progress
Laurence >
Ashton felt comfortable and safe to come to us. He himself was sick and tired of the results of his actions and activity, we brought him with us to church, we made sure that he was part of our church. We didn’t leave him behind, His conversion from not playing house in having a tea party, but it’s similar going through the motions of Christianity without having any real depth to it Came through my own, getting serious and getting right with God. My hatred for and judgement of Christians is what I’m talking about! I hate being around them they make me sick! Cheryl at our Home Group a few years ago back in like 2016 2017 something like that Said we need to go to church they need us A prophetic word and it’s very much an out of the mouth of babes kind of thing because she is so unpretentious You know that I stood up in prophesied at Ladner Christian Fellowship, don’t you? The message I had was “don’t leave” and the scripture that I had was Matthew 7:1 to 6 I yelled at at the top of my lungs.
As I spoke, things went well, but eventually, Danny decided he’d have to shut it down and so he got up and literally shot me up by coming to the mic and taking over interrupting me. I didn’t have a microphone, I didn’t need one, but he had a microphone, he needed one and he sort of chuckled and so yeah you know we really should have you up here sometime Laurence ha ha ha and you can tell us your testimony ha ha ha and you know I scared and confused the whole church, but it was a final act of obedience that I ended up trying to figure out for quite some time after that
I asked God why was I yelling so loud, and he told me Hebrews 5 chapter 11 You can look it up, but it says we have so much to tell you, but you’re almost deaf. You were no longer trying to understand. You were dull of hearing. Those are all different translations of that same scripture. And that message of don’t leave, I realized was my own prayerful heart as an intercessor, asking God not to leave the POC not to leave Ladner Christian Fellowship But the message was don’t leave this church. Don’t leave your marriage. Don’t leave where you are stay! But all prophetic words need to be seen through the lens of scripture, and the scripture was very clearly Matthew 7:1 to 6
Covid happened and so nobody went to church
When it was time to go back again, that Sunday morning, remember And Cheryl gave her eloquent answer… She’s usually just very matter of fact she knows how to make decisions. I called her a lightning thinker. But this particular day she gave me very reason out step-by-step thoughts Proof that the Holy Spirit was speaking more than just her I know it was that same weekend. It might’ve been that same day that I got a phone call from our brother and sister Art n Angie Ferreira.
Bruce> Your situation with Danny is a perfect case in point. So is the situation with Derek Hamre
Laurence >
Angie says to me hey we’d like you and Cheryl to come by and spend some time with us, I right away ran over there and said yeah we could come over but what’s on your mind, she tried to evade the question but eventually confessed that they wanted to talk to us about changing our Wednesday night Bible study that we have we’re just the four of us are in attendance To cut it short here Angie said that they were wanting to go to a Home Group that happened on Wednesday night as part of Life Church. I said can we come too? Cheryl has said we’re going to Life Church in the next thing you know these two pivotal people in my life were leaving my little Home Group to go to Life Church, our Home Group started through Danny Stebeck and Ladner Christian Fellowship
Bruce> …and Christian Life Assembly. Before my family and I stopped going to CLA Maple ridge campus, he sent me a book as a token of appreciation for having given a donation to missions. The book was written by Andy Stanley, whom I consider to be on the verge of being heretic if not already there. Why does God allow us to go on? Why is he allowing the toddlers to run the daycare?
Laurence> Cheryl asked them Laurence began going to their home, and you know they have a very interesting relationship Mark and alisa Krampitz MARK has his own personal jumbo tron up above his chimney
Laurence >
And, he put a YouTube video up of the song about graveyard to gardens
Laurence >
As we sang that together in his living room, I couldn’t help but noticed that his wife was nervously vicariously, embarrassed for her husband’s awkward idea of having such a small little group incorporate worship
Laurence >
But I also noticed that I was weeping, I felt God‘s presence again just like I had longed for at the dining room table with Cheryl
Laurence >
Mark Krampitz is one of those scary kinds of prayer warrior prophets that stands up at the front of the church and when he prays for you, God tells him things that he has no way of knowing and he prays them. Mark Krampitz responds to in his obedient to the Holy Spirit, That same night Alissa invited Cheryl, Ashton and I to come to church on Sundays, with Cheryl politely declined. Part of our problem with going back to church was that Ashton’s shift at SaveOnFoods was Sundays from 10 till two. But wonderfully Provident was the fact that Life Church had two services and we could easily go to the 9 o’clock service in time to take Ashton to work for 11 am
Bruce
Is Life Church the one from Minnesota or Danny’s Church?
Laurence >
Life Church was once upon a time, pneuma church and also now the right from Minnesota River Valley. I think it even was a church in Richmond for a little bit called the way, but I’m not sure about that. It started with about 12 to 13 people maybe about 17 years ago.
Laurence >
There’s another little bit of a story of how I found out that changing his exact shift time was not as hard as I thought, lady that did the scheduling her name was Shirley, anyways I ended up having a conversation with her and she said it’s simple as pie and next thing you know we were able to get Get to church on Sunday mornings. So there’s lots of wonderful testimony so there’s lots of wonderful testimony about how Aston went from working 11 to 3 on Sundays to working Tuesdays 11:00to7:30? but he sits change to Saturdays from 1030 to 7 he went from being treated like a Potatoe to being a full employee. right now he’s general clerk and does everything from collecting the baskets and carts from being littered all over the property to helping people get the propane tanks to re-organizing the florist area, etc. etc. he usually puts in about 30,000 steps according to the Apple iHealth app so here we are in church and Ashton had recently asked us told us whatever however you wanna call it he needed prayer needed help and so of course we prayed with him and for him I gave him some ideas… But the next thing you know as part of the BE THE MAN Challenge it was let’s not masturbate our view, pornography, nor use profanity, oh, and let’s exercise some more
I can dig up the list, but it was possibly the kindest thing that you and I would barf at… because it reminds us of Systems
You sent
The previous year I had joined it, not knowing what it was all about and I arrogantly left the group because I thought that it was just gonna be some bull crap camaraderie boys being boys together
You sent
But this year, Ashton and I joined it, and I stayed a part of it, even though I was sick to my stomach, because I’m arrogant, lol
You sent
And as it turns out, it’s been a wonderful part of my church. They were about 47 of us, Registered! All of us are done with ordinary, Christianity, being ineffective in our lives, being slaves, etc..
You sent
There was a wrapup night where we all had dinner together and then we had a time of prayer where we stood in a big circle in the backyard of what’s his name is Place
You sent
And my wonderful son, Ashton stepped forward and said that he would like prayer for pornography and masturbation
You sent
So every single man there said they were shocked and amazed that any sort of filthy animal like that would even show up at a church never mind in an event like that and ask for prayer in the asked him to leave so he went inside in the car
You’re kidding right?
Laurence >
Seriously, though every man, there was humbled by my young man, Ashton, and they prayed for him, and most of them said it that all of them knew it. They said to him, Ashton your prayer request was our prayer request. Your prayer need is our prayer need, Ashton made it real.
Bruce
Wow
Laurence >
I stepped forward and told everybody that it was a miracle that I was there because I hate Christians. And that the only reason that I’m in church is be because of obedience to the Lord. And I know they don’t believe me they couldn’t possibly know just how much I mean it how much I loathe it. You know what times Bruce I wonder if it’s the Holy Spirit, whose prophetically speaking in and through me, but I turned the words to God and I pray, and I include myself in the prayer. You know what God said about the lukewarm. So anyways, I’ve been in tears many times looking around it just how many Men of God there are around me. I’m very curious the thing happened to me out of the many curious things that happened to me, you know I grew up in a church of 3000 on a Sunday
Calvary Temple in Winnipeg, and one of the things that I took with me was the determination that I would get to know the people around me, so I decided I would meet someone new every Sunday, and at first that wasn’t very hard, because I didn’t know anybody
One day, I shook the hand of a fellow standing next to me at the end of church, and before I knew it, I was bawling my eyes out and I didn’t know why he’s a young man about 6 ft 2 and as I was crying, he looked down at the little gray haired fat man and gave him a hug! And I said hey, what about me? Don’t I get a hug? so anyways, I was really embarrassed about my tears cause it kept happening to me every time I would see him at church I would weep and I was trying to figure out what the heck is going on! This happened maybe a year ago and a few Sundays ago, I went up to him to apologize about it again and said I’m sure that I must’ve freaked him out and then I freaked him out and that I’m a freak he said actually far from it I’m very inspired by your tears. he said he was gonna go up to the front and ask for prayer. Mark Krampitz and another lady were up there, I actually spent quite some time talking to Anthony at this point just a lot of things that were on my heart that morning, and he kept interrupting me to tell me that that’s what God had been speaking to him about that morning, very much a woman at the well kind of conversation. so when he said he was gonna go up for prayer and could I pray with him very uncharacteristically I decided hey they’re still up there. Let’s go and get prayer. what I mean by that is that I submitted to my church leadership, I knew and know that I am a part of that church,
I took him up there and told him that he had wanted prayer and because both of them are prophetic types they said no no you first And they prayed over me and once again blew me away because all the things they prayed for we’re bang on Did I know that Ashton and Cheryl were fuming Inglee angry at me for being so long after church? I think it was over an hour, they’ve been sitting in the truck waiting for me. My wife had actually come stomping into the church to haul my butt out But the lady had seen her and waved with her hand for her to sit down and show submitted to he. Ashton had already come in and literally grabbed onto my arm saying come on dad. We have to get out to the car. I took authority over my son and said I will come to the car when I’m ready. Do not persist in what you’re doing right now! And he knows that voice listened to me and went outside to tell his mother and that’s when she came in.
Bruce
I’m guessing this ended with her face being red…
You replied to Bruce
She’s very sweet when she repents
Laurence >
When it came time for Anthony to be prayed over, MARC was praying for him, and since MARC is used to me laugh out loud, I interrupted in order to add something. I placed a Bible in Anthony’s hand describing it in terms of Ephesians six that this is the sword of the spirit that God would put in his hand and that he has called to know the word of God until a little longer, confess that he is unable to wheel the word of God and that he’s unable to know the word of God that he’s not a student all of those negative things. Then I left to go be with Cheryl and Ashton and they continued to pray over him and I found out later that Anthony absolutely broke down weeping as they prophesied over him
Laurence >
Anthony is probably about 30
You replied to Bruce
Because I know that there is huge pushback on this topic of living the life of a called person versus living the life of a dream dreamer
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Galatians 6:1
Running Down Vimy 